Vote for Proposition 19 to legalize Pot in California

Hagred
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I live in Mexico where there is violence only rivaled by that of Iraq and Afganistan.  A violence caused by the prohibtion of drugs, we have now near 30,000 deaths related to drug gang wars.  At least one state in the USA is maturing toward ending prohibition of marijuana - hopefully victory
As a Mexican resident I have signed the petition to legalise marijuana
in California.  I, and many Mexicans believe it is the solution to the
endless killings in our border towns - Ciudad Juárez is a prime example,
as well as many others in the country.  I  hope many other states will
soon follow and extend the legalization to opium and the other
so called "hard drugs", at least cheaper legal drugs will take off the
market the harmful artificial stuff that is the real killer.  I believe
that legal drugs for recreational and medicinal use will stop the flow
of arms from the USA to Mexico as payment for illegal drugs - it will
take the profit incentive generated by illegality and the taxes gained
would be much better spent on education and rehabilitation rather than
arms-production for fighting a futile war.  If the USA legalizes drugs
Mexico will very soon follow and hopefully the rest of the world.

I humbly ask you to sign the petition.

http://www.change.org/petitions/view/support_proposition_19_regulate_tax_and_control_marijuana_in_california

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Re: Vote for Proposition 19 to legalize Pot in California

Agreed, and well put.

Emile



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Re: Vote for Proposition 19 to legalize Pot in California

Well I smoked until a few years ago and everyone I know gets a little paranoid at times, it just has that nervous effect ~ not necessarily paranoia. It equally has other effects which balance that to some degree and I think if you are in good company and ‘not already of a nervous disposition or similar’, then it is not too bad. Most narcotics have a general effect of enhancing what is already there and cannabis is no different.

I don’t know what to say but my observations are that it has these effects, your observations are to the contrary, so in fairness and respect to each other we can perhaps say that in some cases cannabis has negative psychological effects.

Personally I find alcohol is far worse but I wouldn’t want to ban that, hence I would vote to legalise cannabis.



Aemilius
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Re: Vote for Proposition 19 to legalize Pot in California

Hello Hagred, and to you too, attila!

 

attila....

“Well a drug that makes virtually every user paranoid relative to its strength, then a continued intake is surely going to continue along that line ~ isolationism.”

 

I have been thinking over (which in the past has gotten me into a bit of trouble) whether or not to disclose my smoker/non-smoker status here. So, yes, I am a Cannabis smoker, and have been since I first left home at the age of eleven (forty-two years ago) in 1969. That said, I do feel somewhat qualified to evaluate the impact it has (generally) both psychologically and socially.

 

I would be very curious to see any corroborating data, if you could direct me to it, that would even begin to back up this assertion. I am not trying to be difficult here, but I have “smoked out”, as they say, with people from almost every imaginable demographic (young, old, gay, straight, black, white, rich, poor, male, female, and many nationalities), and in all these years, I can count on one hand all the people I ever witnessed having any kind of adverse reaction in the form of sudden onset paranoid episodes or overwhelming feelings of introversion or isolation, regardless of the strength or quantity smoked. The most common side effect I have seen (after smoking excessively) was an irresistable urge to sleep. 

 

 

Emile 

 



attila
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Re: Vote for Proposition 19 to legalize Pot in California

Well a drug that makes every virtually user paranoid relative to its strength, then a continued intake is surely going to continue along that line ~ isolationism.

Make it legal and weaker then you control its markets and growers etc, eventually rubbing the barons out of the equation. You can do this to a degree with less corruption and stronger policing, but you still have a large underground which will always cause societal problems even if they are localised.

Yea, we will need strength v soon I agree.



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Re: Vote for Proposition 19 to legalize Pot in California

 Hello Attila, and to all!

Rats have certainly been used successfully for some forms of medical research. However, I would be extremely reluctant to associate or compare the percieved effects of LSD on the psychology of a rat with the percieved effects of THC on the psycology of a human being. The effects of various drugs on people seems to depend largely on the mental state and/or physical condition of the person prior to ingesting said drug.

I agree though that government is doing nothing to make things better, but it really does not matter ultimately what governmment does. People have always smoked, and they will continue to do as they have always done.

When it comes to Mexico, well, thats a tough one. If the Mexican Government cannot find a way to de-escalate all this sort of thing down to a low roar with stronger enforcement actions and getting a handle on rampant corruption within the different police and governmental branches, it would seem their "Failed Nation" status is assured.

Strength to you all, will very soon you will need it.

Emile



attila
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Re: Vote for Proposition 19 to legalize Pot in California

I saw a documentary where rats were tested with LSD and they all become isolationist and gained psychological problems etc, I feel modern skunk and other very strong forms of weed have a similar effect. ..but that’s the negative, I do feel milder forms of all drugs could be acceptable and would remove a lot of problems caused by their legality. Certainly what govt does now doesn’t do anything to make the situation better.

The petition time has expired or I would have signed.



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Re: Vote for Proposition 19 to legalize Pot in California

good luck to prop 19..but government officials, arms manufacturers and law enforcement around the world make so much money by keeping pot and other drugs illegal that I doubt they will give up their cash cow easily.....I wish they would end their stupid war, though!  Esperanza!